How Do Kids Stuck In The Public School System Learn Socialization?
They are locked away from the rest of the world just as if they were in prison. They are put with only kids in their own age group and not allowed to talk to them unless the supreme being (teacher) gives them permission. How sad these poor kids don’t learn how things are in the real world.
on June 25th, 2009 at %I:%M %p
This is what you should be telling people who think home schooling a child will create an inbalance of socialization. Home schooling creates social skill problems? Really? I beg to differ.
Like you said, kids are only allowed to socialize during certain times and only when the teacher allows.
on June 25th, 2009 at %I:%M %p
The school environment enables societies main form of socialization: authority. As well, when the child is stuck at home they interact with a parent and/or guardian, and they always have, to some extent, authority over the child.
The point of being a child is to grow up and learn to be submissive; otherwise, they will not be able to function in our society, will be deemed deviant, and most likely incarcerated. However, many teachers ask their students for ideas, independent paper, and insight in order to teach them how to critically think. They just try and strike a balance between the two.
Socialization has many intended outcomes, and schools are structured in a way that allow us to teach our kids to know when to be submissive to authority, and to understand when/how to question it.
on June 25th, 2009 at %I:%M %p
They certainly are NOT locked away. They are in an environment to learn. They socialize with each other and younger classmates by being reading buddies to the younger kids. They socialize at lunch hours with other kids as well as recess. They have gym class everyday and socialize by playing games etc. Student Council is held after school this is just one of the clubs they can attend. Basketball is going on and also band is going on.
They have a sister school in another state they are pen pals with and they meet in May and spend the day with one another.
Their parents are for the most part involved in their classes. They also take them on vacation during the summer months to visit museums or different countries.
I think you need to take a better look at Public Schools and be a little bit fairer in your views.
I also home school my niece and nephew in math and I see both the positive in being home schooled and in the public schools. I think you are being very one sided in your opinion.
on June 25th, 2009 at %I:%M %p
I LOVE being in the public school system. It’s an opportunity to meet your peers, and have friends the same age as you to hang out with after school and on the weekends with. I think it would be worse if one was home schooled because they wouldn’t be able to meet as wide of an array of kids on a daily basis.
Rich and poor kids both go to my school, and being around a mixed group of different backgrounds really lets you put things into perspective. I think that not allowing a kid to be around a wide array of children can be really damaging. What about when college hits? There are going to be many strict teachers, and many lenient teachers. People on scholarships and people who have parents who can afford 45 K a year.
It’s good to expose children to people their own age.They can socialize with mum and dad when at home.
Now, about strict teachers. I only have 1 out of my 6 classes, and trust me, she makes the room feel like jail. But you have to learn to deal with it because there will be times where you will be stuck with people you don’t like.
If you are so concerned about how your children socialize in public school, please complain. We need more parent input anyways if anything is going to change about teachers’ methods.
on June 25th, 2009 at %I:%M %p
The sad thing is they don’t learn proper socialization most of the time. They are taught to be little robots and instead of learning thinking and problem solving skills they are programed to recite standard answers. There is little or no diversity with the kids they associate with. In real life do we only socialize with 25 other people our own age who live within a few blocks of us? I know I don’t and yet they want public school kids to think this is the norm. Home school kids get to be in the real world learning real socialization with people from all walks of life. They are taught to think for themselves and not just follow the popular crowd.
on June 25th, 2009 at %I:%M %p
Okay I go to a catholic school but in terms of comparison with home school, its the same as being in a public school. And lets be honest, do you really beleive that kids only talk when the teacher allows it?! Seriously! We talk all day! Why would kids is the public system not learn socialization??? This is crazy!
on June 25th, 2009 at %I:%M %p
They learn what the government wants them to learn. I LOVE being homeschooled, by the way. And I think I am very socialized. I have friends and everything! haha
on June 25th, 2009 at %I:%M %p
I guess we are lucky, living in the corn belt. Our ideations must be different. Our children, of all ages, interact through mentoring the younger children, having interaction with staff and the public of all ages thoughtfrom day care sites to nursing homes. We have programs in which the parents (who are a wide demographic) interact with children who are not even in school yet through the school system and seniors that come just to hear children read, help with math, tell their stories, etc. It is not the standard in this day and age that children are taught to be automatons and that there is no room for free thinking. Rubrics are taught that teach each child the basics of problem solving: breaking down the problem into sections and recreating it in their own minds so that it makes sense to the individual. Though I cannot say that all schools are geared toward individualism (how can they be with 750 students), the opportunities abound in scholastic, interscholastic, and social programs. I loved school mostly for the socialization it provided.
on June 25th, 2009 at %I:%M %p
Are you seeking an answer? Or are you looking for someone to stroke your opinion and tell you you are correct?
If you really are looking for an answer, here it is:
Public schools allow children to socialize. They allow them to communicate ideas, learn to play to another person’s ear, learn social graces and find their place in the world.
Sure, it is structured, but so is the real world. They can choose to defy the teacher, they can choose to talk during appropriate times.
The school system allows for children to learn social graces within a learning environment. That’s a lot better than being home schooled and not learning it at all.
While home schooled kids are smarter, they’re almost retarded when it comes to society. Have you ever watched a real competitive spelling bee? The kids are smart as can be, but have the strangest manners and seem like they are programmed ants.
Also, to comment on your “these poor kids don’t learn how things are in the real world”, I personally wouldn’t want my kid to be taught “the real world” right off the bat.
Easing people into it is the right choice. To deny a child his childhood by saying “Now people are going to stab you in the back, have sex with your wife, kill each other, poison themselves, and there’s nothing you can do about it” would be a bit harsh.
on June 25th, 2009 at %I:%M %p
Well, that all defines what you mean by the real world. The real world consists of people and sanctions by which we live which create harmony.
If children do not learn to listen and be orderly, how can they expect to fit in to society as adults … i mean really, for example:
If i work at subway, but i cant listen to my boss, i talk back at inappropriate times, i don’t listen to the customers, i do what ever i want. AND all my fellow employees are the same, how could the store function ?
Perhaps you should consider asking “how do kids stuck at home learn socialization, locked away from the real world, only allowed to socialize with their own family if the supreme beings (the all decision making parents) allow them too ?”
And maybe you could also look up “socialization” in the dictionary because I don’t think you really understand what the word means.
Bob’s wife, maybe you should also ask yourself why your id here is Bob’s wife and not an identity of your own. How sad.
on June 25th, 2009 at %I:%M %p
I assume you don’t know much about schools or are basing your judgment on only one or two schools you have seen.
While I can’t speak for all public schools the majority I have seen operate in a fairly similar social manner to any other schools, with children being allowed to mix with other pupils of all ages and int he case of older students, being allowed off school premises when not in class.
on June 25th, 2009 at %I:%M %p
I am a psychic…I predict Miss Mara will be selected best answer. Lol. Folks, read the asker’s questions. This is a soap box.